LIVE BLOG: City Council Meeting for December 19, 2016

Published on by Adam A. Donaldson

Just one more meeting tonight before council breaks for the year. You can click here for the amended agenda from City Hall, and you can click here to read Politico’s preview of tonight’s meeting. For the complete blow-by-blow of tonight’s council meeting, you can follow me on Twitter, or follow along below via Storify.

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Adam A. Donaldson
Tue, Dec 20 2016 14:55:15

Guelph City Council Meeting – December 19, 2016

Live blog from the meeting starting at 6:30 pm

  1. The last council meet of the year begins in 10 minutes. A preview: https://t.co/td4M5Et7Pq https://t.co/IrMMhg2kE0

    The last council meet of the year begins in 10 minutes. A preview:  http://guelphpolitico.blogspot.ca/2016/12/city-council-preview-whats-on-agenda_13.html … pic.twitter.com/IrMMhg2kE0
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
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    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:21:10

  2. Pre-City Council meeting entertainment courtesy of The Baker's Dozen @cityofguelph https://t.co/ByEXwqkOem

    Pre-City Council meeting entertainment courtesy of The Baker’s Dozen @cityofguelph pic.twitter.com/ByEXwqkOem
    Colleen Clack@Colleen_Clack

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    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:26:06

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor Guthrie notes a donation been made in the name of Royal City Ambassadors to local speech therapy charity.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:30:48

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    One more song from the Ambassadors before the meeting begins.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:34:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    It seems that there’s regrets from Cllr Billings, @DanGibsonCllr and @PhilAlltWard3.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:36:58

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Minutes passed. Onto the consent portion of the motions.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:37:42

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    All consent items except Social Services Committee passed.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:38:50

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    First delegations, By-law Service Review for Animal Control.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:39:30

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Adrienne McBride, ED of the Humane Society, up first.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:39:57

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    McBride applauds city for revisiting the current bylaws, supports recommendations (which they should as part of the working group)

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:41:03

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Only 13% of cats collected by the Humane Society are reclaim, McBride hoping that these new rules will change that.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:42:29

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    McBride also appreciates the $5 from each license to improve the health and welfare of cats.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:44:36

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Hofland asking about lack of consultation around chickens in the survey.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:46:42

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr MacKinnon asks about what will he do with his theoretical cat if its chipped and he moves to Ottawa…?

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:52:49

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Piper asks about the response rate of lost pets social media feeds. Humane Society does use those tools to reunite pets/owners.

    Mon, Dec 19 2016 23:58:32

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No more questions for McBride, now its questions for staff.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:06:09

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff says they tool considerable time looking at poultry for the bylaw review, # of animals, size of lot, etc.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:06:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland moves the bylaw update, Bell seconds. Now Downer has chicken question.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:07:58

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Are there any regulations about the storing of chicken droppings? is Downer’s Qs

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:08:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff: same regs under property bylaw covering other animal droppings

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:09:07

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson

    Gordon just acknowledged he’s a chick magnet*

    (*chicken issues)

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:09:35

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury says he’s gotten feedback that cost of the cat license is too high, has the city looked at alternatives, lower rate?

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:14:30

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The recommendation is coming from the Animal Control working group with feedback from the stakeholders they represent.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:16:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon makes the point that it feels like responsible pet owners are subsidizing irresponsible ones.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:19:59

  25. PhilAlltWard3

    Phil Allt@PhilAlltWard3
    Wish I could be there .@adamadonaldson best wishes for the season to all.  https://twitter.com/adamadonaldson/status/810992350906433537 …

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    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:21:23

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon says he’s going to vote against the cat licensing stuff on principle.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:22:22

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon wanted to express his displeasure at the subject, is going to ask that clause #2 be separated.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:23:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Downer notes that everyone has to get a drivers license to drive, and many never get charged or ticketed.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:24:58

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland notes that council doesn’t know anything about chicken and poultry, but added clause #13 and 14 on the fly… ?

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:27:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland moves to pull 13,14 and ask staff to review the regulations regarding domestic poultry.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:28:12

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff is fine with recommendations 13, 14 in spite of Holland’s concerns.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:30:31

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    If Hofland amendment passes, the proposed changes for B.Y. chickens will not go into effect, current regs stand.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:33:42

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland says council has heard from chicken owners, but not people living next to chicken owners. Also, no education training.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:34:40

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell says council needs to hear from ppl that don’t look forward to having a coop 10 ft from their door. Some applause for that

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:40:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury says there’s a process issue, council is passing a bylaw and asking staff to review it at the same time.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:42:02

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says there is a process issue, and will support the Hofland amendment.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:46:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Passes 7-3. (Gordon, Piper, Wettstein against)

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:47:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cat licensing in clause #1 and 2 will be separated out per MacKinnon’s concerns on cat licenses.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:48:52

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury moves to strike the $25 from clause #2

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:58:55

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Motion fails 7-3

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:59:12

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie, Salisbury and MacKinnon vote in favour

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:59:36

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clause #1 8-2. passes.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 00:59:50

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clause #2: 7-3, passes
    Clause #3: 9-1, passes
    Clause #4: 10-0 passes

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:00:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    #5: 10-0
    #6: 8-2
    #7: 10-0
    #8: 9-1
    #9: 10-0
    #10: 10-0
    #11: 9-1
    #12: 10-0
    #13 (as amended): 9-1*All measures pass.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:03:31

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Next up Guelph Innovation implementation update. Norah Chalpner of the @YorklandsGreen delegating.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:04:58

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The group supports the restoration of the greenland on the York lands, as well as environmental research.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:06:29

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Currently the @YorklandsGreen is raising $3 million to buy the land in order to meet their goals.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:09:01

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon asks about the goals of urban agriculture when there are some toxins in the land.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:13:06

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Chaloner says the solution is raised beds, like they use in downtown Detroit community gardens.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:13:57

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No more questions for Chaloner. The motion is moved and seconded.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:17:18

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Downer notes how disappointed she is that the city’s sent 15 delegations to the province and get no interest back in city plans for site.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:18:06

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie agrees, staff and political work immense to bring forth exactly what council worked on last term.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:19:03

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie notes province’s praise of city plans, and right now the land is producing nothing for the taxpayer.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:19:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vote passes 10-0

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:21:05

  55. Here’s the list of recommendations for Animal Control bylaw changes FYI pic.twitter.com/UVYtmJTHhr
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
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    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:21:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wettstein wants the main committee communication to be a staff-to-staff process. Having council rep do reporting politicizes.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:23:24

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    This is the point Wettstein wanted to raise (concern) about Social Services Comm. Guthrie represents city on it for C. of Wellington

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:24:14

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Thomson says that this won’t replace the relationship between county and city staff. They have a good working relationship.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:27:04

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wettstein offers a referral that primary committee communication remain a staff-to-staff process.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:28:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland seconds. Asks if staff will no longer attend meetings since the mayor will be there.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:29:05

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff will continue to participate as needed. Staffer that used to attend no longer with CAO office.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:29:44

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wettstein amendment approved 10-0

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:31:07

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Main motion approved 10-0

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:31:19

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Last item up: Guthrie notice of motion. Looking for options to commemorate veterans on Norfolk St Bridge when reconstruction begins.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:32:14

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clack: there is a naming committee made up by staff, and if motion passes, they will be brought it.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:32:34

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The debate not the motion will come late at January Committee of the Whole

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:33:00

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper believes that public members are also on the committee. Clarify?

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:33:19

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clack has to check that, but public input will be sought in any case.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:33:51

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland, Bell move Guthrie motion. Passes 10-0

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:34:07

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wettstein notice of motion pushed back to end of January.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:34:44

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Van Hellemond moves the bylaws, seconded by MacKinnon.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:35:00

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    By-laws pass 10-0.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:35:40

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor announcement includes #Merrymaking even on Wednesday from 4-8 featuring “the Fire Guy” (sp?)

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:36:31

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie invites everyone coming to Merrymaking bring food to support the Seed Hub.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:37:01

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie wishes everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. Thanks council and media(!) for another good year.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:37:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council adjourns for 2016. Thanks everyone for following. And to all a good night.

    Tue, Dec 20 2016 01:38:14

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