LIVE BLOG: City Council Meeting for May 9, 2016

Published on by Adam A. Donaldson

After the big meeting of just a few weeks ago, we get ready for something a bit more sedate: planning matters. You can click here for the amended agenda from City Hall, and you can click here to read Politico’s preview of tonight’s meeting. For the complete blow-by-blow of tonight’s council meeting, you can follow me on Twitter, or follow along below via Storify.

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Adam A. Donaldson
Fri, Sep 15 2017 01:58:38

Guelph City Council Meeting – May 9, 2016

Live blog from the meeting starting at 7 pm

  1. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Here’s the brief-isn agenda for tonight’s city council meeting.  http://guelphpolitico.blogspot.ca/2016/05/city-council-preview-whats-on-agenda.html …

    Mon, May 09 2016 16:12:30

  2. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Don’t worry, Guelph Politico will still be live blogging it.  http://guelphpolitico.blogspot.ca/2016/05/live-blog-city-council-meeting-for-may.html …

    Mon, May 09 2016 16:13:44

  3. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Long line-up of people signing in for tonight’s meeting.

    Mon, May 09 2016 22:56:57

  4. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Downtown property”, “staff correspondence” and “CAO contract” on tonight’s closed meeting agenda.

    Mon, May 09 2016 22:58:28

  5. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    It’s now 7 ‘o’ clock, only staff in the council chamber so far.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:00:29

  6. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor Guthrie says council needs 5 minutes to “get themselves together before starting.”

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:03:37

  7. Waiting for the meeting to start be like... https://t.co/az24fVtiiG

    Waiting for the meeting to start be like… pic.twitter.com/az24fVtiiG
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    ·

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:07:44

  8. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Okay, looks like we’re getting started.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:10:27

  9. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Looks like @ward6mark is absent tonight.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:11:03

  10. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council received info on Downtown matter, and direction given on CAO. Correspondence will be discussed after open meeting.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:11:47

  11. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie wants to talk about #FortMacFire. Extending thoughts and prayers on Guelph’s behalf.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:13:28

  12. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    .@CathyDowner will be bringing forward a motion later in regards to #FortMacFire

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:14:12

  13. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Regrets from @ward6mark

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:14:42

  14. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    All aspects of consent agenda to be voted on. Passes 13-0

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:15:58

  15. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    That was for rezoning Guelph Place, the car wash next to Boston Pizza and the demolition of a Metcalfe

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:16:54

  16. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    First up, development of 19 homes on Hyland Rd.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:17:18

  17. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A total of 10 homes along a new cul-de-sac will be built north & 9 homes will be built on a similar cul-de-sac on the south side.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:18:04

  18. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    There will be one designation about this development, and one correspondence.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:19:41

  19. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Van Hellemond is asking about the adjusting of surrounding yards.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:21:27

  20. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Salisbury quotes a correspondence regarding the tagging on the property. Staff believes that’s happening already.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:22:43

  21. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Piper asks whether this development will be on public roads. Staff member believes that’s the case.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:23:37

  22. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Gordon says there aren’t any difficulties on paper with this development, but worries about traffic flow on a nearby road.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:24:31

  23. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    He’s also concerned that nearby wetland might be compromised.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:24:48

  24. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Chris DeVriendt says that this is a key aspect that will have to be explored.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:25:11

  25. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    DeVriendt adds that traffic will be looked at as the application moves forward.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:26:00

  26. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr. Billings asking about a particular spot in the plan, it may be unusually configured.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:27:17

  27. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    That’s it for staff report. John Dunnink the developer will speak now.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:28:18

  28. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Dunnink (pronounced Done-ink) has been building homes in #Guelph since 1970.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:29:00

  29. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Dunnink says they’re aiming to keep home size the same for the whole neighbourhood.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:29:35

  30. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    In other words, the new homes he’ll build will be the same size as older homes.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:30:07

  31. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Dunning says he wants to give the city at least 2 hectares of land back to protect wetlands.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:31:01

  32. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Also going to try and transplant as many trees as possible to the boundaries of the site.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:31:26

  33. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    New development is going to “an asset to Guelph” says Dunnink

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:32:29

  34. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No council Qs for Dunnink. Eric McCraney is the only designate.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:33:05

  35. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    McCraney is speaking to the protection of the wetland.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:33:38

  36. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Wetlands can’t be defined by the water’s edge,” says McCraney.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:35:21

  37. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “A slopping wooden grassland” says McCraney. Ideal ground for snapping turtles, he adds.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:35:58

  38. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    McCraney says he’s surprised to be here to speak against the application.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:37:26

  39. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    McCraney invites everyone to come out the area and check out its natural beauty.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:38:26

  40. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    (You know, before it’s gone.)

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:38:49

  41. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Yes, you’re right. It’s a reflex. My bad.  https://twitter.com/selaw13/status/729817956591542272 …

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:39:28

  42. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Amend the last vote 12-0. Thanks to @selaw13.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:40:10

  43. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mr. Galway a last minute development. Lives next to the land slated for development.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:41:10

  44. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The view McCraney mentioned was “very impactful” in decision to move there.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:41:37

  45. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Concerned that all trees behind the home will be removed. So very large and mature trees set for destruction.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:42:31

  46. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A lot of grading will have to be done. How will this affect run-off?

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:42:57

  47. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Loves his backyard, has a pool and enjoys the privacy. Because of slope, his yard will look up at a wall.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:44:00

  48. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Bell asks to see an overlay of the land and where the lots will be.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:45:18

  49. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vote to receive the report: passes 12-0

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:45:44

  50. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Next up, 671 Victoria Road North. They want to build a “mixed use development”…

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:46:41

  51. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    …with commercial space and 124 apartment units in two six-storey buildings and another one-storey building on the site.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:46:54

  52. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The proposed commercial space seems likely to be a pharmacy, and the plan also includes 147 surface parking space on the site.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:47:13

  53. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    There’s at least one delegation and 20 correspondences for this one.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:48:12

  54. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A drive thru for a bank is also part of the plan.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:49:27

  55. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    There will also be 199 spaces worth of underground parking.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:49:41

  56. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Van Hellemond asks about the grading since Victoria Rd slopes.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:51:29

  57. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vic Road is 5 metres higher at the front of the site than it is from the back.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:51:47

  58. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Van Hellemond also asks about the one exit from the underground parking. There may be blind spots created.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:52:34

  59. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Van Hellemond “surprised” how many big trucks use that road, thinks that traffic lights may have to go up.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:53:44

  60. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    As currently zoned, nearby apartments could go up to 8 storeys.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:54:57

  61. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Billings questions the compatibility btw 6-storey towers and neighbourhood full of houses.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:56:01

  62. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Currently, zoning allows 2-storeys, an urban design brief has been asked for.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:56:40

  63. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A traffic study has been submitted and will be reviewed by staff.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:57:04

  64. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Gordon says there’s a common theme from residents was pre-knowledge that 2-stoeys would be max. “This is pretty radical”

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:58:06

  65. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The slope “looks problematic” says Gordon. But there will have to be a “monster buffer” to be adequate.

    Mon, May 09 2016 23:58:54

  66. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Piper asks about the mixed use zone. The priority of the site shifted from commercial to residential.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:00:22

  67. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff says the development has asked for 6 meters instead of the usual 12 for 6 story buildings.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:01:39

  68. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Van Hellemond asks about whether people in the northern most building will look into the yards of neighbours.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:03:15

  69. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Astrid Clos and Saad Faraj will speak for 1830334 Ontario Inc.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:04:11

  70. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Close they’ve received the correspondence and they are here to listen.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:04:57

  71. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Placement of the bank is because staff wanted to have a building right at the corner.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:06:39

  72. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clos says that 5th and 6th floor are set back so they don’t look right down into neighbouring back yards.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:07:17

  73. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    …Also supports choking Bob Rae.  https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/729825164456693761 …

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:08:35

  74. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The principal commercial function is maintained b/c apartment parking is underground (to answer Piper’s Q).

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:09:44

  75. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Architect will address compatibility Q

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:10:40

  76. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Because of the setback of floor 5 and 6. It’s only *technically* 4 storeys hence an 8 meter buffer rather than 12.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:13:02

  77. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Architect Saad Faraj now presenting. He’s been working on the project for 3 years.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:15:17

  78. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Promises to try and address the concerns of all of the neighbours.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:15:59

  79. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “The site has to be developed, it can’t stay the way it is.” Faraj showing ariel photos of the grass and sand on site now.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:16:52

  80. Visual aid. https://t.co/nT9GmslA44

    Visual aid. pic.twitter.com/nT9GmslA44
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    ·

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:25:05

  81. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Billings asks if this is the shadow study. It is not.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:25:47

  82. Another view https://t.co/HG11GlOOEN

    Another view pic.twitter.com/HG11GlOOEN
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    ·

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:27:11

  83. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Upper floors set back 9 meters from the face of the building. A woman chuckled at that behind me.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:28:15

  84. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Van Hellemond asks if Clos client built the houses next to the property. Clos says they’re aware of the slope there tho.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:30:53

  85. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Salisbury asks about difference between drive thru for bank and for fast food outlet?

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:32:51

  86. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clos says more cars. The zoning only allows for financial institution.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:33:16

  87. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The likelihood of rezoning for fast food drive thru in future is unlikely.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:34:03

  88. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Paul Harrison is the only listed delegate to speak on this matter.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:34:32

  89. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Harrison talks about finding garbage along there. “More and more garbage” each day, plus vandalism.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:35:24

  90. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Had a whole bunch more concerns since finding the plans.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:35:54

  91. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “This is going to be a white elephant” Harrison says. His neighbour feel the same.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:37:05

  92. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    He says his neighbours aren’t here tonight b/c they think this is a done deal.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:37:30

  93. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Harrison says he was told be realtor that areas was zoned commercial, meaning businesses.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:38:22

  94. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Asked about apartments, and realtor and builder said it was “highly unlikely.” That weighed heavily in their decision.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:39:04

  95. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Traffic will happen a lot,” Harrison says.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:39:17

  96. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Between 6 and 10 hours of shadow in neighbouring backyards says Harrison.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:41:03

  97. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    This many more cars in the area, pollution will go up. People are not going to be living and working in area.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:41:54

  98. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Average life in apartment 1-2 years, Harrison says. Source: Google.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:42:16

  99. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    In other words, they’re not going to have same care about the neighbourhood.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:42:32

  100. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    New tree line will provide “cover for vandals” Harrison says.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:43:04

  101. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I’m not against change, I’m not against a commercial building,” he says.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:43:27

  102. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Gordon says there’s a pretty good process at the city, and public input is asked for at every level.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:44:08

  103. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Piper asks if neighbourhood has an association. A group working with a developer can be facilitated. Harrison welcomes that.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:44:53

  104. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Another area resident comes forward, Jignesh Nayak.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:46:05

  105. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    He lived in Alabama for a while, came to Guelph looking for best city near Milton.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:46:39

  106. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Concerned about the safety of the kids playing or riding bikes nearby.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:47:11

  107. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Most of the pop. in the area are young families or people near retirement.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:47:36

  108. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    About 30 people in the gallery to hear this issue, so if there are people holding back…

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:48:20

  109. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Andrew Billick (sp) will live in the shadow of the buildings. The slop will make this more of a 7/8 storey building.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:49:14

  110. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The height is the largest issue says Andrew (and the crowd).

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:50:07

  111. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Only receiving the application tonight. NO FINAL DECISION TONIGHT!

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:50:32

  112. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Piper looking for comment of impact on CEI, waste and snow removal.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:50:56

  113. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper wonders if an initial meeting between neighbours and developer might be warranted.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:51:25

  114. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says they can’t force parties together, but city can facilitate discussions.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:51:56

  115. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Van Hellemond asks for a “finished” picture of the landscaping.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:53:26

  116. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Bell notes developer is asking for additional amendments, not sure why the developers asking for them.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:54:46

  117. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell also concerned about safety of pedestrians at the mouth of the underground parking.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:55:14

  118. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “An appetite for compromise” Bell says, hopes they can reach it.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:55:40

  119. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Downer notes that this is also a gateway into the city.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:56:23

  120. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie wants to see about lighting (as usual) and willingness of developer of permeable surface parking to help with stormwater.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:57:18

  121. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gate noise and garage door noise also be investigated, asked Guthrie.

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:58:06

  122. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    WIMBY/NIMBY? No Guthrie wants QUIMBY (Quality in My Back Yard.)

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:58:47

  123. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Application received 12-0

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:58:57

  124. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Downer speaking to Association of Municipalities of Ontario re: Support for Fort McMurray – Call to Action

    Tue, May 10 2016 00:59:47

  125. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Fire still not under control she says, and asks “What would that be like for us here in Guelph?”

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:00:13

  126. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Motion for @cityofguelph to donate $5K to Red Cross through AMO.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:00:51

  127. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    AMO could leverage that, but they might now. Could be $5K direct to Red Cross.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:01:23

  128. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Van Hellemond has seconded.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:01:31

  129. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Allt point out that there are a number of Indigenous communities in the area. Perhaps $8K would not be out of Q.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:02:21

  130. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Piper wonders if there’s ways to offer in kind support. Other resources.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:02:44

  131. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Ann Pappert says Emergency staff in contact with Fort Mac counterparts. No request made yet.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:03:17

  132. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor Guthrie asks if there’s a way council can engage local community for matching funds.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:04:20

  133. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    I know that No Frills is collection $2 donations for #FortMacFire

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:04:47

  134. GToolLibrary

    Guelph Tool Library@GToolLibrary
    @adamadonaldson Fort Mac FD has commissioned a statue. Maybe Guelph could chip in.

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    Tue, May 10 2016 01:05:24

  135. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt says council should encourage Guelphites to beat the city’s $5K

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:05:32

  136. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt also suggests that #Guelph could raise Fort Mac flag at city hall in show of support.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:06:02

  137. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Downer says Guelphites have probably already donated more than $5K.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:06:40

  138. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Motion passes 12-0.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:06:46

  139. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    By-laws pass 12-0.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:07:20

  140. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Gordon rises on point of privilege.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:07:34

  141. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon addressing a tweet he sent.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:08:21

  142. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon says Cllr Gibson attacked him for making political attack on him, “abusive and insulting words”

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:09:02

  143. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    It was a misunderstanding, Gordon says. It’s a matter of impugning Gordon’s integrity.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:09:53

  144. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon says it’s with regret he’s doing it. Says Gibson is one of the best on council at looking out for taxpayers but…

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:10:43

  145. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    …he plans on taking this to integrity commissioner w/o an apology.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:11:08

  146. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    This was a nice meeting there for a minute. :-/

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:12:04

  147. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor Guthrie says he has to make a ruling about whether point of privilege is necessary. Wishes Gordon/Gibson could have settled this.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:12:51

  148. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says he doesn’t want a back and forth.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:13:04

  149. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says he doesn’t want a back and forth.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:13:04

  150. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson says he and Gordon has had some back and forth, failed to accept and won’t let it go.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:13:37

  151. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson quoting a guest post on Gordon’s Ward 2 blog.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:14:18

  152. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland calls point of order. Guthrie threatens to use “Thor thing”

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:14:38

  153. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The can of worms Guthrie didn’t want to open is opened. “We need to rise above this.”

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:14:59

  154. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I don’t want to hear anything from 6 months ago.”

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:15:27

  155. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson apologizes, but thought tweet fit into Gordon’s narrative.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:15:51

  156. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Thank you councillor Gibson,” Gordon.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:16:05

  157. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “In the future, please, I’ll buy the coffee, but let’s do this outside the public realm.” – Guthrie.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:16:30

  158. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Motion to back into closed meeting passes. That’s it from council tonight.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:16:54

  159. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Councillors, back room now please.” Guthrie snaps.

    Tue, May 10 2016 01:18:22

 

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