LIVE BLOG: City Council Meeting for June 27, 2016

Published on by Adam A. Donaldson

It’s going to be a busy one at council tonight with transit issues, budget variances, and maybe a *whole* new way to conduct the business of council. You can click here for the amended agenda from City Hall, and you can click here to read Politico’s preview of tonight’s meeting. For the complete blow-by-blow of tonight’s council meeting, you can follow me on Twitter, or follow along below via Storify.

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Adam A. Donaldson
Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:22:30

Guelph City Council Meeting – June 27, 2016

Live blog from the meeting starting at 7 pm

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No further motions/announcements, but Guthrie acknowledges Clack for first meeting as DCAO.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:22:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bylaws pass 12-0.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:21:36

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt brings special resolution to declare Old Quebec St food court open land and up for sale. Passes 12-0

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:20:56

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon moves that Jim Crocker be appointed to the Elliott Board for a three year term. Passes 12-0

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:20:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Extra buses passes 12-0

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:19:22

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt asks Meagher if he thinks this problem can be solved with what’s being offered and he does.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:19:11

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson encourages ppl having trouble with transit to send him an email

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:18:19

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson says half his complaints don’t come outside peak hours.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:17:44

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council needs to direct staff to look at re-activating peak service, says Thomson.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:17:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    CAO Thomson says staff was in a quandary, can’t recommend something council voted against. The request had to come from council.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:16:51

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Billings recounts the decision in committee, says her motion at committee was to do as Gordon suggested. Plan will cost $75K

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:15:42

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon asks why peak service can’t be restored.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:14:20

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Buses on those routes will head out 5 minutes ahead of them to make sure people along route make connections at GCS.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:13:56

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Some routes will have helper buses all day long; others only during peak times.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:13:14

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Most impacted routes were analyzed, 2,3,5,8,10,11,13 are all affected.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:12:53

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt asks what ppl can see Monday.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:12:11

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher says revenue is off by 1.7%, but doesn’t have exact figures handy.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:11:55

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher says there has been a reduction in ridership for May over last year, in response to Salisbury Q

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:11:28

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “This is a small scale way to mitigate that,” Clack adds.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:10:47

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Residents have been challenged,” Clack says.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:10:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury, this is a reaction to the short comings of that service. “Is this a reaction to the storm we created?”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:10:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clack adds that a conversation was had with communications already, city will make sure that’s clear.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:09:22

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher confirms this is an adjustment, not a return of service.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:08:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland wants to clarify that the city is not reinstating peak service for the rest of summer.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:08:02

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    On extra buses, Hofland says it’s good news, and she’s glad there’s a report.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:07:15

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    And it is.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:06:36

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Motion on statement to be read after “O Canada” and silent reflection about Indigenous territorial lands. Allt hopes it’s unanimous.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:06:22

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clack says this has been in the works for a while. Legal, culture and tourism have been at this fore a while.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:02:29

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon asks for acknowledgement of meeting on traditional First Nations land, and to coordinate with wording with appropriate groups.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:01:41

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Amendment for report back in 6 months, passes 11-1.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 04:00:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Recommendation #2 passes 10-2.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:59:37

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Recommendation #1 passes 8-4

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:59:15

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Back to Bell’s idea: outcome of #1 will dictate direction.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:58:44

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    3:30 amendment: 9-3 against.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:57:53

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “it’s a mish-mash that doesn’t give us any benefit,” MacKinnon says.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:57:28

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon can’t support that amendment tho. It runs into meals, and it runs the same detriments.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:56:48

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson didn’t endorse the decision, but wants to amend #6 that CotW take place at 3:30 pm instead of 2.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:55:59

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    We maybe circling on a direction here…

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:54:59

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie asks for vote to suspend procedural by-law, than a vote to reconsider. For now, vote to go past midnight.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:54:12

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell, Billings, Gibson, Hofland, Piper, and Van Hellemond voted against the original motion back in April FYI.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:53:00

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper says she would recommend that…

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:51:54

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I hate to use the word ‘pilot project'” but that’s what he’s getting at.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:51:18

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Would it feel better if you could views this direction as a way to try something new + 6 month follow-up with data, Guthrie asks.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:50:37

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie tries again to find consensus. Are we agreed that we’re worried about the unknown, he asks.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:50:03

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury says voting against #4 kills CotW. Doesn’t know why a line can’t be extracted and voted on separately.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:48:20

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wettstein: 4 and 5 are “fundamental reconsider motions” he says. Need a motion to reconsider if they’re on the table.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:47:04

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper wants to support many recommendations, she doesn’t want to vote against the whole thing,

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:46:00

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Matter of procedure. “I can’t allow this to fly, it’s so contradictory,” Guthrie says.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:44:11

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie concerned with what’s about to happen. “We need to do a motion to reconsider […] we are completely contradictory to the direction”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:43:34

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Still, Piper not convinced the problems will be solved with CotW…

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:42:33

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper says Downer has raised a really good point. It’s council’s conduct, and she’s guilty too.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:41:41

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Downer says transit issue earlier was a great reason why this needs to move forward. Some of the same Qs asked at committee as tonite

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:40:20

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland seconds.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:39:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper moves to pass Recommendations 1-3,7,8, 12-21 now.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:39:17

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Decision was made in April for CotW to start in September. Would need a notice of decision, which could not be passed tonight.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:37:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “The direction in April was to do this” says Guthrie. Will need a motion to reconsider.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:36:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper suggests that maybe the change be held over until 2018 rather than changing “mid-stream”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:36:06

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    If 4 is voted against, then CotW will basically be defeated.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:35:06

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    O’Brien says they need an implementation plan if they’re going to move forward with this in Sept.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:32:58

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    15) That Council meeting as a shareholder be held as special meetings on separate dates.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:31:35

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    11) That the reporting schedule for the remainder of the Council term be approved.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:31:20

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    9) That Council appoint Chairs to handle the material coming forward to Committee of the Whole from the Services Area departments.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:31:00

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    6) That Committee of the Whole meetings start at 2 p.m. on the first Monday of the month.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:30:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    5) That staff be directed to proceed with the Committee of the Whole implementation plan.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:30:27

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    4) That staff be directed to amend the Procedural By-law & the Council Terms of Reference to implement the Committee of the Whole structure

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:30:09

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper thinks CotW works better with a small board, not a board of 13.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:28:57

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper says there are 6 recommendations she doesn’t support: 4,5,6,9,11, and 15.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:28:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Recommendation #10 voted 11-1 to be eliminated by council. MacKinnon sole no vote.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:27:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie calls vote…

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:26:48

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon wonders if there’s a way to train delegates.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:26:27

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon think one meeting rule is unenforceable unless there’s some kind of judge to decide.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:25:46

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Downer says the public can self monitor on what is new information.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:24:32

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon amends to delete item #10, the one meeting one. He’s for it, but wants the discussion now to save time.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:24:14

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon puts the motion to implement recommendations on the floor. Downer seconds.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:22:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie looking for feedback on the speaking twice issue, and delegation priority.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:21:36

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No follow up from council for Pritchard.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:20:22

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Pritchard also likes Breezy Corners breakfast with Allt/Gordon, wishes more councillors crossed wards for similar meets.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:18:59

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Likes CotW structure, and likes 1 meeting per delegate.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:18:11

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Seen improvements in transparency, not efficiency says Pritchard.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:17:29

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    But seriously, Pritchard wants to hear source of rumour of cap on delegations.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:16:47

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The single most efficient thing council could do is eliminate delegates like me, says Pritchard. Turn it all over to Hugh Whiteley, he jokes

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:16:13

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Ted Pritchard is the last delegation of the evening.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:14:55

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Whiteley likes CotW b/c it provides 2 stage decision making.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:13:38

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    How can the community make their case best, asks Whitely.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:08:38

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Whitely says the CotW structure is of benefit, it helps to build a coalition of groups and individuals to help council make a decision.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:08:12

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Whitely says the 1st principle of community engagement is that everyone as a opportunity to take part. This did not happen.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:06:02

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hugh Whitely is now up after Petric’s short and sweet delegation.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:04:19

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council is walking a fine line with Charter rights, Petric adds. Someone may submit a complaint.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:03:40

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Defining new information” is a concern, Petric says. Staff doesn’t know everything on the internet.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:03:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Next up is @steven_petric (again).

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 03:02:18

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wasn’t in the staff recommendations, but it was in the report.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:59:03

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says there’s no where in report that says the discussion will be limited to 3 people on each side. That’s contested.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:58:32

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Facade of fairness” Holstein notes about issues being limited to 3 delegates on each side.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:56:29

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Since when is the prime interest of democracy to save time” Holstein says.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:55:29

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Holstein says that council should hear from delegates 1st, then come back and discuss the issue.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:55:05

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Brian Holstein up next, happy that he’s still awake.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:52:55

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Watson concerned about people trying to be strategic, council not getting enough info at committee.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:52:30

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt tries to press Watson on the preference, would she rather delegate at 11:15 or 5:15?

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:51:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Sense of being heard important to democracy and fair and tolerant society, says Watson.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:47:50

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Delegations are here for community as well as council, says Watson.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:46:17

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Watson asks how often ppl talk at both council and committee now?

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:45:13

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Should be celebrating the fact that citizens are giving up their time to be civilc engaged.”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:44:33

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Watson notes initiatives for council to engage citizens, but message of either/or delegation is anti-democratic.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:43:51

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council moves to go past 11 pm.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:42:46

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Susan Watson kicks off delegations.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:42:23

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    O’Brien says a year seems fair. Delegates, chairs, a lot to consider.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:42:06

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie asks if a year is valid following on Downer’s point.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:41:47

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Downer asks about timetable for feedback.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:40:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    O’Brien says there will be growing pains.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:40:27

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    There’s going to be difficulty defining new info, says Downer.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:40:03

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Amarosi says council meets will be shorter because CotW do the heavy discussion. That’s what happens in other communities.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:37:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    O’Brien says that “may or may not happen” depending on issue. Maybe council gets it out of their system at CotW

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:33:36

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    There were some Mm-Hms from the gallery on that one 😉

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:33:07

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wettstein asks if giving all the councillors “two bits” at CotW, won’t that increase the time of the meet, not decrease.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:32:52

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    O’Brien says there may be that assumption now, there may be a need to educate the public further.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:31:28

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wettstein may there may be confusion about whether or not the decision will be perceived to be made at CotW. Ppl may not wait to delegate.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:30:59

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    O’Brien says he encourages staff to take flex time, but that’s not always possible. Esp. for IT staff. RE:saving on overtime.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:29:36

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper says she remembers voting for an expansion package for electronic agendas. O’Brien doesn’t know about that, but will look.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:28:16

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    O’Brien says the intent is to have a mandate for ongoing training, but chairs are priority.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:24:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson asks if training be extended from chairs to councillors so everyone aware of procedures.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:23:53

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    50% of standing comms already start at 2 pm.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:22:57

  122. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson asks if 2 pm is make or break. O’Brien says it was feedback from council/public on late meetings. “Decision fatigue”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:22:35

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    An item on info report wouldn’t be extracted “in the moment”, public would see in advanced it would be extracted following a deadline.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:21:48

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The electric correspondence between council and staff on Friday will then be shared with media so we get heads up.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:20:41

  125. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury asking about info reports. Would they be available to public as well through agenda package.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:20:07

  126. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Billings asking about “new info” caveat. Won’t be able to delegate on same issue with new info and make a different point.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:16:38

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council will still have the ability to extract reports – like sign by-law variance and demolitions – if they choose.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:14:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Average length of a committee meeting: 1 3/4 hours.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:13:13

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland asks if people were made away council is PT job, thus difficulty making meets in the afternoon for those with FT jobs.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:08:46

  130. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland says many of the changes could be implemented with current structure. About 80%

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:07:06

  131. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon asks if money saved from going paperless might be reinvested in tech for accessibility. Will be part of consideration says CC.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:06:32

  132. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Sorry, that’s MacKinnon.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:05:42

  133. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson asks if changing chairs early given change to CotW might be advisable. O’Brien says those app’ments happen at end of year with others

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:05:13

  134. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson asks if a countdown clock might be part of the consideration. It can. Maybe even for councillors too, jokes O’Brien.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:04:09

  135. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt is thinking about strategery.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:03:36

  136. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Feasibly, the message would be getting to council as a whole anyone, just a two week window btw CotW and council

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:03:11

  137. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt with “devil’s advocate question” when does someone present to council vs committee?

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:01:44

  138. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Existing chairs will chair their section of the CotW.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 02:00:39

  139. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Previews.  https://twitter.com/steven_petric/status/747610079222968322 …

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:59:55

  140. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Right now, the agenda is a massive .pdf. Tonight’s agenda is over 350 pages.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:59:45

  141. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Revisted landing page for the agenda. Click not the report you want, and the link will take you there.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:58:18

  142. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Yes.  https://twitter.com/steven_petric/status/747609794215813121 …

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:57:31

  143. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Rogers will be able to broadcast all committee meets at 2 pm. Bingo permitting.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:56:29

  144. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    There will be opportunities to delegate to the whole council at two difference opportunities now.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:55:24

  145. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    new schedule is familiar and predictable, O’Brien says.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:54:30

  146. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Currently, a quorum of council attend standing committees.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:54:07

  147. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Looking to move receipt itemss to a regular info dump every Friday to media and public.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:52:31

  148. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Public, council and staff engagement been key to developing this.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:50:45

  149. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Okay, Stephen O’Brien to talk about implanting Committee on the Whole

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:49:49

  150. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Pause. We’re not sure where we’re going…

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:49:24

  151. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    1 Minute Warning. Then, Committee on the Whole presentation.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:47:59

  152. @adamadonaldson pic.twitter.com/LOLS6NiFpR
    Steve Petric@steven_petric

    ·
    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:37:56

  153. Customer service focus on Transit might be a good idea. https://t.co/qTpogT1VnU

    Customer service focus on Transit might be a good idea. pic.twitter.com/qTpogT1VnU
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:42:37

  154. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Transit report passes unanimously. Now a break.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:37:30

  155. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says there needs to be a customer service focus in this.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:36:16

  156. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    DCAO says there’s a review of affordable pass, that review could look at new student pass.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:34:47

  157. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt says other sectors might make a case to get free transit for them. Wants to see overhaul of whole fair structure.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:32:19

  158. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury said this is a convo that’s happened before, can it be included somewhere else?

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:34:20

  159. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “There is no free ride, if you’ll pardon the pun,” says Allt.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:32:52

  160. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie asks if that’s something to be brought to council on a committee level.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:31:18

  161. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clack: it would be nice to have specific direction from council on that, not sure if that was part of broader work.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:30:37

  162. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Is that something staff could look at, and not like a HS bus pass equivalent to UPass.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:30:12

  163. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie wants to look at free transit for school children. Kingston started with grade 9s and are now up to grade 11s.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:29:48

  164. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    That would captured #3 right now, talks with engineering, and traffic says Clack.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:28:50

  165. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie wonders if bike land could be moved to other direct routes, which would allow for BRT. Doesn’t want this seen as “this or that.”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:28:21

  166. mrcycology

    nathan poulton@mrcycology
    you’d think we made cars in this city or something … provide/make transit a viable option and people will use it  https://twitter.com/adamadonaldson/status/747600786310455298 …

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:26:58

  167. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie wants to ask a few “bank shot” questions.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:27:13

  168. steven_petric

    Steve Petric@steven_petric
    @adamadonaldson well that’s up to Council to give transit resources to promote transit better to the community.

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:26:27

  169. andythequizzer

    Andy Saunders@andythequizzer
    Says the councillor whose ward can’t even build a bloody grocery store #Guelph  https://twitter.com/adamadonaldson/status/747601899088654336 …

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:26:28

  170. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell wants to know what Transit’s “commitment to service” will be.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:25:57

  171. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “It’s not going to come to us just by spending money on it,” says Bell. “You’ve got to show us the brilliance.”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:25:28

  172. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell is “happy to get on the bus” but building an effective transit system is “extremely difficult.”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:25:01

  173. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wants to know city is “buying something” with increased funding.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:23:36

  174. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell would like to see forecast/commitment that extra $ will = extra riders.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:23:08

  175. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    It has social and other value, Allt says.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:21:31

  176. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guelph seems to get in a “traffic jam” on transit. Other cities see it as investment, not cost.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:21:20

  177. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    People want to get out of their cars and get to where they’re going safely and comfortably.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:20:55

  178. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt says he and Gordon hear about transit issues and traffic jams all the time.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:20:28

  179. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vote passes to refer clause 5 to Sept. Bell, MacKinnon and Van Hellemond vote against.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:19:42

  180. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    NERD!  https://twitter.com/steven_petric/status/747600018513739776 …

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:19:13

  181. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie: I would hope some of the ppl around here would support it in a few months if staff recommends.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:19:05

  182. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie going to support the referral, but there’s validity in pushing it off to Sept.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:18:28

  183. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    So was the exec in favour of having Transit part of the pilot, asks Guthrie for clarification.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:16:54

  184. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Convos about service reviews started in last council, but staff has always looked for efficiencies.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:14:56

  185. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr MacKinnon, who’s joined the meeting, wants transit on the list today.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:12:22

  186. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Difference btw waiting till Sept or starting to scoping over the summer.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:11:37

  187. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    If clause 5 passes, DCAO will put “more meat on the bones” in terms of developing a plan.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:11:07

  188. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council gets 2 for the price of 1. Will finish service review framework, and there will be nothing more till Sept.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:10:32

  189. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell asks for staff to comment on the amendment, how it will change things.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:09:56

  190. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt: major concern is service is review isn’t singular, it’s plural. Other areas might be considered as well.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:09:01

  191. steven_petric

    Steve Petric@steven_petric
    I lost my train of thought at end haha just so tired of Councils over last 2 decades not moving Guelph forward w/ transit @adamadonaldson

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:07:30

  192. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper amends to refer clause 5 to the service review process.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:07:53

  193. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper would like to know alternatives to comprehensive plan, and would like to see scope of other priorities.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:07:18

  194. thatjamesgordon

    James Gordon@thatjamesgordon
    @steven_petric @ward5guelph @adamadonaldson Excellent delegation about our transit future by @steven_petric at council tonight.

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:05:30

  195. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Various motions will be separated out for voting.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:04:56

  196. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie throws it to Downer for recommendation, and then to Wettstein for comment.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:04:19

  197. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Selling point of GCS is getting on GO train and Greyhound, but “spine” won’t go to GCS.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:03:33

  198. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    LRT though he won’t see it till 50, says Petric.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:03:02

  199. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper asks for one singular recommendation that he’s excited about.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:02:48

  200. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I want this city to approve this and move forward,” Petric concerned about comments from council on Uber. That 1 component

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:02:13

  201. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Petric tired of seeing Guelph take a step forward and two steps back.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:01:28

  202. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    New “spine” route is not what the city wants, it what it needs, says Petric.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 01:00:35

  203. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Frequency and coverage is what this is trying to do, says Petric.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:59:57

  204. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “This is what we should have had years ago,” says Petric. “It puts us on track wot where we should be going.”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:59:07

  205. rickthaluddite

    Richard Cole@rickthaluddite
    @adamadonaldson @steven_petric could by-pass Norfolk, go down Wyndham to GCS. I live near Arkell/Gordon. A bus every 10 mins. appeals to me.

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:58:15

  206. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Finally, @steven_petric gets to speak.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:57:06

  207. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No comments, only questions.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:56:44

  208. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie trying to rally council. There’s still a delegate to be heard, right @steven_petric?

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:56:35

  209. steven_petric

    Steve Petric@steven_petric
    @ward5guelph @adamadonaldson I’ve posted the booklet presented to council on my blog  http://Stevenpetric.com 

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:54:43

  210. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “This might have been solved if we had moved to Committee on the Whole” says Downer, foreshadowing.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:55:29

  211. ward5guelph

    Leanne Piper Ward 5@ward5guelph
    @adamadonaldson @steven_petric Mind Mixer results don’t necessarily correlate with final recommended changes to transit routes.

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:51:44

  212. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “They’ve been doing work on something we approved a little while ago,” says Guthrie. Amarosi says that is correct.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:50:51

  213. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff working on service review shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, says Guthrie, part of the CAO mandate for 2016

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:50:02

  214. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “There’s no funding in anyone’s budget to do this,” says Amarosi.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:41:21

  215. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    First meeting today, looking at stake holder depts that *have to* be a part of this service review.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:40:51

  216. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    @steven_petric Thank you.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:38:54

  217. steven_petric

    Steve Petric@steven_petric
    @adamadonaldson  http://cityofguelph.mindmixer.com/topics/7514/guelph-transit-route-review …

    ·

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:38:26

  218. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Amarosi says staff is coming to council in September with service review framework. Transit will be one of the pilots.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:38:07

  219. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper looking to make the community engagement document more available online. Clack says comm team will make that available.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:35:23

  220. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Piper asking how citizens might learn the results of the “mind mixer” (sp?)

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:34:31

  221. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “We have another side here,” notes Guthrie.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:33:36

  222. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Transit never fully pays for itself,” notes Meagher.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:32:40

  223. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “We expect to experience [overloads] when the students are back in school” says Meagher.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:30:47

  224. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “What I’m hearing just now makes me more interesting in digging down to see what that subsidy should be,” says Gordon.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:30:19

  225. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “We always look at fare increases,” says Meagher.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:29:31

  226. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher “We feel there will be increased revenue in 2017.”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:28:20

  227. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “How am I assured you’re picking the right cherries?” says Bell.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:27:32

  228. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher reminds, “this is not a cherry picking episode […] this is a holistic system.”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:27:13

  229. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    $3.7 million the total cost, but Meagher says he needs notes to get how that breaks down.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:26:45

  230. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    How much are we trimming, and how much for the new service, Bell asks

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:26:20

  231. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    …there’s a cost that he’s wondering if whether or services trimmed in non-productive areas to pay for it.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:25:52

  232. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Bell: On side with proposals, thinks city should have done it a long time ago. But…

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:25:14

  233. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    July 13 will provide council with 10 year history on capital, and demonstrate the gap.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:21:58

  234. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland asks about what council will talk about at upcoming capital budget workshop. Need to have “big discussion” on transit.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:21:35

  235. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Step 1: Base 2016 service
    Step 2: Return to 2015 level
    Step 3: Expanded service.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:20:41

  236. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland trying to get her mind around what happens next year.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:19:29

  237. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Hofland: double checks start date of changes.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:15:56

  238. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Recommended start for new system: Sept 2017.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:14:56

  239. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher: “We’re providing ppl a different option.” More options to get where you’re going.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:14:35

  240. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I think what we’ve found is that the star don’t align,” adds Salisbury.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:13:38

  241. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury: on budget night is was “well communicated to council that this had to have the stars align to make this work.”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:13:19

  242. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    … when the spine is implemented (I meant to add)

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:12:30

  243. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Be able to go north and south “pretty fast” says Meagher.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:11:48

  244. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    We’re running a “just in time” operation says Colleen Clack. The route has to go perfectly for bus to stay on time.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:10:51

  245. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury: “I’ve got a lot of calls with people that are dissatisfied with the connections in service”

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:10:17

  246. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Salisbury says he’s having trouble feeling confident talking about reducing peak service given this summer.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:09:23

  247. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Amorosi wants to see a long term capital funding expectations, so no false hope is raised.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:08:41

  248. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    DCAO: there’s an annual replacement budget for buses.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:05:10

  249. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Salisbury following up on Billings Q about financial plan.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:04:47

  250. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A modal split is the % of travellers using a particular type of transport or # of trips using said type.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:04:18

  251. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Modal split is between 6 and 7%

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:03:23

  252. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    $125M is over 5 year period too, Meagher notes.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:02:57

  253. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    2017/18 a total study will done for transit along with trail and active transport.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:02:38

  254. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher: Guelph portion of expanded gas tax will be $4M more/year.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:01:46

  255. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher a lot of things to take into consideration, transit looking to take advantage of fed/prov infrastructure funds.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:01:10

  256. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Billings notes “this is a massive financial undertaking” wonders what staff is thinking.

    Tue, Jun 28 2016 00:00:32

  257. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Meagher: “This is a comprehensive package” Some routes are underperforming, so changes are being made.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:59:32

  258. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff says it will be one package presented in totality, but it will not be a “shopping list” what council can “cherry pick.”

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:58:20

  259. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The 2017 budget will be presented at 2016 levels, and expansion package will be presented separately.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:57:06

  260. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Billings asks whether this is above and beyond what’s in the 10 year capital forecast.
    A: Yes.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:56:07

  261. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Now it’s time for Qs from council.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:55:11

  262. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Opportunity through Federal budget for Transit funding (nation-wide) is over $125M over 10 years.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:54:05

  263. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A new facility for housing and maintenance of vehicles will also be needed as service expands.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:53:19

  264. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    24 new buses and 40 new operators will be needed for expanded service.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:52:51

  265. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Also looking to the future and inter-city transit system…

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:52:02

  266. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    BRT and LRT not immediate option for #Guelph, says Meagher. but he wants to open the conversation.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:51:16

  267. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Ppl surveyed did not want to remove bike lanes for transit only lanes, says Meagher.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:49:32

  268. steven_petric

    Steve Petric@steven_petric
    @adamadonaldson with no service to Guelph Central. Have to transfer or walk to stop on Norfolk

    ·

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:49:28

  269. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Transit recommending 10 minute “spine” route north-to-south on Woolwich, Norfolk and Gordon.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:47:59

  270. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Transit hasn’t be able to see “all changes through to completion,” says Meagher.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:45:11

  271. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    2010 review of service: 81 recommendations, 44 achieved.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:44:18

  272. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    City will move forward with renewed vision for transit in 2017, says Meagher.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:43:33

  273. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Recommendations for service expansion in 2017 in this report, plus long term plans.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:42:59

  274. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Phil Meagher, General Manager, @guelphtransit will present…

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:42:04

  275. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Back to Public Services, Guelph Transit Growth Opportunities.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:41:24

  276. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Hofland asks to pull report for Extra summer buses.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:40:46

  277. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Passes 12-0

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:39:55

  278. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No one council wants to extract report on Snow Disposal Facility.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:39:38

  279. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Downer presenting Public Services Committee report.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:39:24

  280. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Reports accepted 12-0

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:38:46

  281. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No items from ID&E to be extracted.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:38:38

  282. Very proud of @guelphmuseums and @GuelphHistSoc @OntarioHistory Museum award for 100 yrs In Flanders Fields https://t.co/NqwG3e8oUn

    Very proud of @guelphmuseums and @GuelphHistSoc @OntarioHistory Museum award for 100 yrs In Flanders Fields pic.twitter.com/NqwG3e8oUn
    Leanne Piper Ward 5@ward5guelph

    ·
    ·

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:37:21

  283. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Tender for Parkade will go out in September… 2/2

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:37:58

  284. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Now on to Infrastructure, Development & Enterprise Committee. Tender for Wilson St construction will go out next month… 1/2

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:37:41

  285. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Report accepted 12-0

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:36:25

  286. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No one asks for items to be extracted.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:36:16

  287. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Operating Variance Reporting Recommendations and 10 Carden Shared Space Inc. – Community Bond and Tax Incentive Program Request

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:36:06

  288. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Corp. Services Comm: 2015 Final Year-End Report on Operating Variance Surplus Allocation and Deficit Funding… 1/2

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:35:54

  289. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Audit Committee report accepted, now on to the Corporate Services Committee.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:34:38

  290. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    @elizabethmcgee That’s so weird because they usually don’t rip the chicken till the second hour.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:33:45

  291. elizabethmcgee

    E McGee@elizabethmcgee
    @adamadonaldson if you look on the right hand side of the rogers council page, is that a ripped chicken  http://www.rogerstv.com/show?lid=7&rid=8&sid=185 … ..#gross

    ·

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:32:27

  292. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie praises Museum staff for their outreach and drawing attn to #Guelph and honouring John McCrae.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:32:42

  293. Presentation of Museum Award for Excellence in Community Programming. pic.twitter.com/UJk6s5CEd2
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    ·

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:31:22

  294. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Now a presentation for @guelphmuseums for the “In Flanders Field” 100 year commemoration.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:26:53

  295. steven_petric

    Steve Petric@steven_petric
    @adamadonaldson only 2 months too late 😉😁

    ·

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:24:52

  296. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    As we wait for athletes, Guthrie thanks @cityofguelph and @gpsmedia for participating in Special Olympics last month

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:24:34

  297. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Financial Statement and Auditor approval passes 12-0

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:23:23

  298. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    FYI: @ward6mark sends his regrets tonight.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:22:58

  299. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Motion to receive GJR Report to City passes 12-0

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:22:37

  300. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    GJR report did not.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:21:41

  301. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    True Confession: Cllr Salisbury reads a lot of annual reports (the put him to sleep).

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:21:29

  302. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    GJF lost a couple of customers in 2015, hoping to get them back despite CN competition.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:18:56

  303. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Definition of B Corps.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_Corporation_(certification) …

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:18:16

  304. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor Guthrie notes that #Guelph is number 1 in Canada for number of B Corps.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:18:04

  305. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Cllr Allt asks how GJR can be used to the benefit of the city.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:15:05

  306. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    General Manager of Biz. Develop. Peter Cartwright praises the work done by GJF.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:14:18

  307. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    True Confession: @PhilAlltWard3 living the dream as member of railway board!

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:12:58

  308. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt asks for “optimistic outlooks” for the future

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:12:33

  309. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt says GJR is “ubiquitous” in the city, the main artery through Guelph.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:12:17

  310. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Significant” investment in Eramosa Bridge. Biggest liability of 5 bridges owned by GJR, says Brown

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:11:28

  311. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “It’s been an interesting year,” says Brown. Restructure and planning for focus and direction planned.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:10:56

  312. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Ian Brown, Chair of GJR Board, now going over the numbers.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:09:56

  313. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council will now sit as shareholder of Guelph Junction Railway. Cllr Allt will present.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:09:04

  314. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor asking City Clerk a question.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:08:30

  315. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Report on acquisition of DT property – motion coming tonight
    Council privilege advice – info received.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:08:01

  316. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Closed meeting:
    Solid waste mgmt – received info
    Appt to Elliott Comm Board – Direction, motion coming

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:07:23

  317. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    For the record, Gordon and Wettstein have gone full Sipowicz tonite. (Dress shirts with short sleeves)

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:06:18

  318. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor has entered the chamber…

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:03:33

  319. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Waiting for Mayor, MacKinnon and CAO (or deputy).

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 23:01:49

  320. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    What’s the deal with that one? Apparently, the 30 min sked is a fuster-cluck, as I’ve been reporting for 2 months.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 22:58:09

  321. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A new agenda item’s been added: “2016.35 Guelph Transit – Extra Buses”

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 22:57:25

  322. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    So far, the only 2 council reports for extraction are Transit Growth and Meeting Mgmnt.

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 22:56:40

  323. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Don’t forget to follow the live blog here and here:  http://guelphpolitico.blogspot.ca/2016/06/live-blog-city-council-meeting-for-june_27.html … at 7 pm

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 18:58:05

  324. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    From Guelph Politico: A preview of tonight’s #GuelphCityCouncil meeting.  http://guelphpolitico.blogspot.ca/2016/06/city-council-preview-whats-on-agenda_23.html …

    Mon, Jun 27 2016 18:57:31

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