LIVE BLOG: City Council Meeting for April 11, 2016

Published on by Adam A. Donaldson

Time again for the monthly planning meeting at Guelph City Council. You can click here for the amended agenda from City Hall, and you can click here to read Politico’s preview of tonight’s meeting. For the complete blow-by-blow of tonight’s council meeting, you can follow me on Twitter, or follow along below via Storify.

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Adam A. Donaldson
Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:45:44

Guelph City Council Meeting – April 11, 2016

Live blog from the meeting starting at 7 pm.

  1. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    #Guelph City Council meeting is tonight. Check out the Politico preview.  http://guelphpolitico.blogspot.ca/2016/04/city-council-preview-whats-on-agenda.html …

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 14:07:58

  2. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    And then check out the live blog starting at 7 pm TONIGHT!  http://guelphpolitico.blogspot.ca/2016/04/live-blog-city-council-meeting-for.html …

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 14:08:27

  3. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    15 minute warning for the start of the #Guelph city council meeting.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 22:46:40

  4. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    4 delegations have been added on the 45 Yarmouth Street Proposed Zoning By-law Amendment point.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 22:49:30

  5. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    @adamadonaldson Basically, developer wants to build a 14-storey apt tower on empty lot next to old Other Bros. restaurant.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 22:50:12

  6. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The rest of the agenda is up for consent (meaning vote w/o discussion in open council).

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 22:51:23

  7. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    There are 4 other delegates listed for the 132 Harts Ln W subdivision, so that may be pulled from consent.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 22:52:15

  8. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council begins.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:01:22

  9. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    4 items from closed session

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:04:12

  10. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    CAO contract: direction was given
    Labour Relations: To be raised under special resolution
    Transactional Committee: staff given direction

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:04:57

  11. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No one looking to pull 30 University Ave, York Trunk Sewer or Report to Council on closed meeting. Passed 13-0

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:06:14

  12. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    First up: 45 Yarmouth St. development.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:06:51

  13. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Developers are seeking a change from CBD.1 (Central Business District) Zone to a CBD.1-? (Specialized Central Business District)

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:08:23

  14. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Change would allow the building to be all apartments. CBD.1 would require commercial portion.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:09:00

  15. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The proposed building would have 14 floors and 2.5 levels of underground parking. 89 apartments in all.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:10:18

  16. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Developer would like several spaces in Baker St lot to be set aside for them (which should go over well).

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:10:49

  17. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    This is the first time “bonusing” provisions (extra 2 floors) would be considered for council’s approval.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:11:48

  18. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Q from Billings: What are the community benefits from density?

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:12:58

  19. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Still need to consult with council on those points.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:13:13

  20. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Q from Billings: Is there a parking for formula? Number of units = number of spaces.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:13:37

  21. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Currently 1 space per unit. Report coming from staff for review.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:13:57

  22. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Q from Billings: Don’t we (@cityofguelph) have a waiting list for passes?
    A: Yes. The 20 spaces are a request.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:14:32

  23. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt asks about the considerations and impact of Baker St. redevelopment. Not taken into account yet.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:15:24

  24. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Intent of applicant to accommodate city’s three stream garbage system.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:15:47

  25. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No details yet on how parking will be affected during construction.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:16:09

  26. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    1st and 2nd floor will be residential.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:16:35

  27. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Downtown Secondary Plan requires 12 storey limit with approval from council for 2 storeys more.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:17:09

  28. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson says there are ground floor commercial opportunities. A comment to take away.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:17:41

  29. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson would like numbers about how it affects the downtown plan for density.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:18:14

  30. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff will takeaway Gibson question.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:18:41

  31. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell notices 75% of first floor is taken up by access to parking. Does that conform to urban guidelines?

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:19:24

  32. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    3 access points, but there will be a thorough urban design review.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:20:21

  33. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury asking about community benefits. Is there a contribution that could facilitate Baker St redevelopment?

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:21:39

  34. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Doesn’t expect answer tonight.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:21:59

  35. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury thinks the benefits should involve solving some of the problem the development is creating.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:22:44

  36. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury points out that Baker is busy street commercially, all apartments there would be creating a gap.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:23:15

  37. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Billings recalls concerns over pedestrian access between Baker and Yarmouth in past development request for 9-stoey building.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:24:18

  38. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    OMB decision says there should be no public access through site.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:24:48

  39. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon wonders if this is court before horse in terms of Baker St redevelopment.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:25:40

  40. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon looking for clarification on sight lines with the Church of Our Lady.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:26:14

  41. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    DT Secondary Plan took that into account.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:26:33

  42. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper asking about “Dead zones” created at parking garage entrance. DeVreindt says staff can follow-up on that.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:27:41

  43. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper would like to see what the development will look like from a “human standpoint.”

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:28:20

  44. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor Guthrie has questions: Has car sharing been brought up?
    A: No.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:29:23

  45. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Q from Guthrie: Has aesthetics of the top of the building been discussed? Thinking of the building on corner of Yarmouth and Quebec.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:30:04

  46. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Richard Zelinka to speak on behalf of the developers.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:30:43

  47. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “It represents a great development opportunity for the future of downtown.” High quality residential.” – Zelinka.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:31:50

  48. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Site currently under-utilized, says Zelinka.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:33:17

  49. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No natural features on the site, but archeological assessment will be done on the site.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:35:30

  50. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Zelinka says site falls out of viewing corridor for Church of Our Lady.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:37:45

  51. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Zelinka says they’re open to council suggestions for improvement to the plan.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:38:48

  52. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Zelinka is getting extra time to talk about parking concerns. Many on council had questions.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:42:02

  53. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Zelinka says there’s no room for commercial frontage on 1st floor with parking access, lobby, and garbage rooms.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:44:20

  54. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No cross access points public or private due to safety concerns.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:44:43

  55. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Zelinka promises “nominal” loss of parking due to development. No impact on traffic movements either.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:46:11

  56. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff will get that report latter this week. Building will be able to sustain on 69 spaces.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:46:43

  57. Here's what the building will look like in living colour. https://t.co/k7tQHTQP2j

    Here’s what the building will look like in living colour. pic.twitter.com/k7tQHTQP2j
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    ·

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:50:23

  58. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie kicks off council Qs about the top of the building in drawings. Just artist’s rendition.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:51:32

  59. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gibson picked up on 1/2 bedroom units and rentals. Ties to affordable housing strategy, anyway this development can meet criteria?

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:52:09

  60. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Floor plans are flexible, Zelinka says. It could be something to be considered.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:52:48

  61. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt asks about the coloured patterns in the drawing. The non-balcony side will be precast.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:54:04

  62. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt asks if parking concerns would be met sticking to 12 storeys.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:54:30

  63. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury about the 19 spaces, 12 & 7, why 2 entrances if on same gradient?

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:56:03

  64. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mehdi says there’s safety issues, no cross-parting between the two.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:56:36

  65. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury says there will be challenges with double entry. Adds that ground level commercial is “fundamental”

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:57:27

  66. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury: this build has two, active dynamic sides. Baker more commercial.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:58:09

  67. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The double entrance is problematic “but that’s just an opinion” says Salisbury.

    Mon, Apr 11 2016 23:59:15

  68. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland asking about accessible walkway between Yarmouth and Baker.
    Answer: Nope.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:01:04

  69. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon asks if applicant would consider affordable housing as part of the bouncing provision.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:02:23

  70. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Now time for delegations. Charles Minett for up.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:02:51

  71. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Minett has a medical practice along Yarmouth Street for 35 years. “Pretty familiar with street animation.”

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:04:20

  72. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Points out that there are a lot of health care providers along Yarmouth, and rely on curtsied parking for elderly patients.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:05:05

  73. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    In Minett’s opinion (and the others on Yarmouth) is that this development is “just too big.”

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:05:57

  74. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Showing the southern view of Park Mall building. Minute calls it a “concrete slab.”

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:06:49

  75. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Cars in every available parking space, Minett says of Yarmouth parking on Thursday afternoon. (Showing pic from Apr 7)

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:08:04

  76. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Parking is an issue downtown. Apparently.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:09:30

  77. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Minett says Yarmouth and Douglas Streets are analogues. Douglas St redevelopment was respectful.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:12:37

  78. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Minett finishes by thank the developer for wanting to redevelop land, but its too big.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:13:30

  79. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No questions. Chris Bisson next.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:13:45

  80. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bisson says the 69 slots are about 75% of what’s needed.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:14:59

  81. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Says that it’s difficult to make a decision like this until we know what’s going in on Baker St.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:15:42

  82. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I don’t know how many of you have tried to make a left-hand turn on Woolwich from Yarmouth when there’s lots of traffic” Bisson adds.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:17:33

  83. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The report was done to favour the developer, not the city he adds.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:17:48

  84. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    What is “curb fitting?” It’s prone to large errors, says Bisson.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:18:23

  85. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bisson says city will be better off if developed as condos. (He’s a mortgage broker).

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:18:51

  86. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A shortage for stock for first time home buyers, Bisson says.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:19:11

  87. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    City could generate the same or more tax money with 4 story condo vs 14 storey rental.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:19:48

  88. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bisson has whipped out DT 2ndary plan schematic. No towers the size of Yarmouth development.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:21:56

  89. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Do not overlook the needs for lights at Woolwich and Yarmouth,” Bisson warns.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:22:48

  90. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I have a lot to gain of this happens,” says Bisson who’s closing on property across the street.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:24:01

  91. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No Qs for Bisson. Next up: Ken Chase. Last delegate on this.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:24:20

  92. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Chase: for densification. Lives and works DT. So does wife.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:25:01

  93. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Believes improvements in transit should leverage residential stock DT.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:25:27

  94. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Concerns about removal of pedestrian access btw Yarmouth and Baker.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:26:35

  95. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Chase says parking’s an issue downtown.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:27:00

  96. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Presented w/o comment.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:27:21

  97. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Many different developments that could occur in the downtown is going to have issue with parking, Chase says.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:27:58

  98. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Chase prime concern is walkability. Having a property you have to walk past to get to the next service reduces walkability.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:29:14

  99. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No Qs for Chase. No further delegations.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:33:06

  100. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper would like to see if development can be included in Guelph energy system.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:33:51

  101. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell: Lack of commercial space, thinks its important that interest be made on the street. Urges applicant to modify.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:34:27

  102. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt “absolutely” in favour of increasing density, but concerns about parking.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:35:19

  103. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie asks staff to recount comments to make sure everything’s been covered.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:35:54

  104. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Ground floor use, access locations, parking, urban design, animation of street, Baker St. redevelopment, bonusing options, CEI…

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:36:48

  105. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Copious notes” taken. 3 or 4 pages each amongst three staff members.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:37:39

  106. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Traffic studies provided by third parties, but reviewed by city engineering staff.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:38:25

  107. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie adds again the aesthetics of the top.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:38:44

  108. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Member of public adds we need to consider traffic not just M through F. But for weekends too.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:39:38

  109. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Member of public adds we need to consider traffic not just M through F. But for weekends too.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:39:38

  110. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Susan Marshall says we push the downtown for events, we need to consider that “problem” too.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:40:14

  111. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Susan Marshall says we push the downtown for events, we need to consider that “problem” too.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:40:14

  112. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vote to receive report passes 13-0.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:40:44

  113. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon wants to put motion on floor that the comments by staff are included in minutes as part of public record.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:41:47

  114. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Minutes are done usually without comment, Guthrie says this is a process Q. No seconder.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:42:34

  115. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie suggests to staff to find a process moving forward to record comments.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:42:56

  116. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie calls 10 minute break.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:43:08

  117. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Getting back to business.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:51:52

  118. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Now on to delegations for subdivision at 132 Harts Lane. First Laura Murr.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:52:28

  119. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Speaking to protection of wetlands in the area of the development.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:53:05

  120. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Development on Harts Lane has made no effort to undo the negative environmental effects.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:54:10

  121. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Doesn’t understand why city and GRC did not include the 30 metre “no go zone.”

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:54:37

  122. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    What ware we getting? A very dense development, says Murr.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:55:29

  123. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Also notes the shrinking tree canopy. If we’re going to be more dense, have to look at quality of life too.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:57:12

  124. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No Qs for Murr. Brent Walkling up next.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:57:43

  125. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Speaking on behalf of Rickson Ridge Neighbourhood.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:58:18

  126. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Has some questions, but hopes those Qs doesn’t sound like NIMBYism

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:59:11

  127. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Looking forward to the farmhouse being used as community space.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 00:59:41

  128. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A large section of undeveloped land surrounded by neighbourhoods and small businesses. “Filling hole” in community.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:00:22

  129. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Shocked” to see 10-storey building included. Enjoying facilities “in the shadow” of a building that has “no Earthly business” being there

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:01:25

  130. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Struggling to understand why a building of this size is being developed in the community.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:02:06

  131. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No Qs for Walkling. Astrid Clos is up next.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:04:34

  132. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clos is a planning consultant for Terra View.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:05:12

  133. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    9.36 acres being give to the city for park land, trails and storm water. The 30M buffer is also in there.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:05:50

  134. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The Hart farmhouse will be maintained per staff recommendation and the owner.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:06:46

  135. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Portion of the land for apartment building 5 metres lower than homes on Rickson. Conscious effort to make it unintrusive.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:08:01

  136. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Majority of apts will be 1 or 2 bedroom, plus a few 3 bedroom.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:08:43

  137. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Owner will be willing to agree to 3 bedroom max. on apartments.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:09:06

  138. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper asks about community club. Limits to outside groups renting, what’s the back-up plan?

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:10:23

  139. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff have been careful to insure long-term maintenance, operation, and ownership.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:11:21

  140. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon asks about “the possibility of affordable housing.”

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:18:48

  141. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A portion of apartments and townhouses will meet “affordability” definitions.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:19:07

  142. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Andrew Lambden now addressing council. He’s the owner of the Hart Village development.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:20:34

  143. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Lambden promoting the energy saving features of homes Terraview has built.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:21:54

  144. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Lambden says Hart farmhouse will be restored to former glory. Hopes it will bring unique sense of place to Hart Village.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:25:54

  145. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon asks Lambden about porous pavement, and would that compliment Terraview’s water conservation efforts.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:28:37

  146. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    There’s ongoing maintenance b/c it gets plugged up with sand, says Lambden. But there are many new stormwater features.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:29:08

  147. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper asks about closure of Harts Ln W. to accommodate cul-du-sac. She’s worried about losing the Hart name on neighbourhood.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:31:06

  148. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Harts Lane will continue to exist. The walkway could be called Harts Lane and can include signage, says Lambden.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:32:14

  149. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hart Park could be another suggestion.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:32:53

  150. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    This was a very large farm, this is only a fraction of what is left says Lambden.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:34:32

  151. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper worried about increased traffic running into the area. Hasn’t decided which way she’s going to vote yet.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:34:58

  152. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wants to know if there’s a condition of size of the apartment units.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:35:27

  153. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “We’re not in the student business” Lambden says. His business is selling to families.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:36:04

  154. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Focus on 1/2 bedroom units, with some 3 bedroom units on top floors.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:36:28

  155. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Already have ppl on waiting lists, and haven’t started promoting yet, Lambden says.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:36:54

  156. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    That’s the last question. Council to vote on the report.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:38:03

  157. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper says there are concerns, but a lot of positive there to counter that.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:39:48

  158. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt says the difference between affordability and subsidy is an important distinction to make.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:40:27

  159. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper wants to add piece of mind to the residence that Terraview will watch the size of the high density units. No seconder.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:42:06

  160. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council accepts report 13-0.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:42:39

  161. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Special resolution: acceptance of deal between @cityofguelph and #CUPE.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:43:30

  162. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Mayor thanks city negotiators and union members for quick turnaround and reasonable and fair outcome.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:44:00

  163. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Motion passes 13-0.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:44:10

  164. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vote on bylaw changes passes 13-0.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:44:46

  165. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Motion to adjourn. Council meeting is over.

    Tue, Apr 12 2016 01:45:00

 

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