LIVE BLOG: Committee of the Whole for December 5, 2016

Published on by Adam A. Donaldson

Money matters, mother nature and the city’s pets are all hot topics for the last Committee-of-the-Whole meeting of the year. You can click here for the amended agenda from City Hall, and you can click here to read Politico’s preview of today’s meeting. For the complete blow-by-blow of today’s committee meeting, you can follow me on Twitter, or follow along below via Storify.

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Adam A. Donaldson
Tue, Dec 06 2016 00:02:31

Committee-of-the-Whole Meeting – December 5, 2016

Live blog from the meeting starting at 2 pm

  1. Committee-of-the-Whole meet starts at 2 pm. Here's what's on the agenda: https://t.co/cB8gdHgeNN https://t.co/VbOgAXYpzc

    Committee-of-the-Whole meet starts at 2 pm. Here’s what’s on the agenda:  http://guelphpolitico.blogspot.ca/2016/12/committee-of-whole-preview-whats-on.html … pic.twitter.com/VbOgAXYpzc
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
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    Mon, Dec 05 2016 16:59:12

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Committee of the Whole is now getting started.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:00:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Agenda: Audit report, Animal Control bylaw and delegations, then corporate services items.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:01:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    First presentation: Matthew Betik, Audit Partner at KPMG, LLP with the plan for next year’s external audit.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:02:28

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The KPMG Is starting their external audit this week FYI, results should be back June 2017.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:13:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Committee accepts external audit report 12-0. (@DanGibsonCllr is away today).

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:14:05

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Catherine Spence, Internal Auditor, will now present the two year internal audit plan.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:14:52

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Difference btw internal and external: External is backward looking, internal does forward look as well as back.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:18:30

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Internal audit also offers consulting and facilitation to city services.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:19:30

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    A lot of projects on the plate of the auditor in 2017, may not all be finished in time for the end of the year 2017.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:24:40

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I’m it” says Spence. She’s the only person doing all this work the auditor has to do. A pretty heavy load.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:25:29

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Plus… she’s only been on the job for two months.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:25:45

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury asks about independence and the input Spence received from staff.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:30:50

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury has faith in the work plan, sees no concern, he says.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:32:09

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Internal audit plan passes 12-0.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:35:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    3 Things from Guthrie
    1) Gibson regrets
    2) Welcome back, Piper.
    3) Any Qs for CS Staff before we make ’em wait?

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:36:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says he will leave it up to staff to decide whether they might be needed or not.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:37:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Next up: Public Services. Animal Control and Street Trees.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:37:59

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Beginning with delegations for Animal Control service review. First up Lance Henderson, who works with exotic animals.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:38:37

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Henderson focusing on poisons and venoms. Banning them all is far too strict removing various insects, fish, arachnids…

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:39:27

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Henderson holds up a bottle of mouthwash. You can’t swallow it, right?

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:40:48

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Henderson also holds up a coffee cup. Caffeine is a poison, but if council tried to ban Tim Horton’s there’d be “death threats”

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:41:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Henderson argument is that the restrictions are too broad.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:43:59

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury asks about allegories to the pitiful ban in Montreal and specificity. 2 extremes, what’s the right answer?

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:45:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “Being hurst by poison, there’s no black and white to it.” Bee stings hurt, black widow bites kill. There is a spectrum, Henderson says

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:46:37

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie asks if Henderson was part of the working group.
    Henderson did come to one of the meetings.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:47:32

  27. #Guelph looking at banning Cobra. Smart. /s https://t.co/v5r3hAbcjq

    #Guelph looking at banning Cobra. Smart. /s pic.twitter.com/v5r3hAbcjq
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
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    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:50:06

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    But seriously, next up is young Ben Sharpe.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:50:48

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    He helps his friend and her mom raise chickens.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:51:05

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Helping to raise chickens calms Ben down, and makes him very happy. He loves and cares for them. #awww

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:52:14

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Next up Jody Teskey, she’s asking council to reduce the 50 ft distance between coup and residence to raise chickens.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:54:33

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Teskey says it marginalizes people that don’t have big properties, and stops the spread of the local food movement.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:55:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Teskey says her kids are questioning fairness. Why do some people get to keep chickens and other don’t?

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:56:32

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No Qs for Teksey. Chris Casa is up next. He lost his chickens b/c of 50ft rule. 

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 19:58:50

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Casa says it’s a myth that hens are noisy. No more noisy than birds chirping and roosters already banned.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:00:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon asks about best practices. 50 ft designation pretty unique amongst communities with chicken bylaw.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:02:17

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Case says #Guelph unique in this. 1 to 3 metres seems to be the norm

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:02:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon notes that we don’t know where the 50 ft number came from in the first place…

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:03:33

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Finally, Valerie Wyatt from Nature Guelph will speak to council

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:06:40

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Learn more about Nature Guelph here:  http://www.natureguelph.ca 

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:07:11

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    #Guelph has nearly 30K cats, 1/3 of which are allowed to roam outside.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:07:39

  42. 350 million birds are killed every year in North America by cats, says Wyatt. https://t.co/hdEAMlE9QQ

    350 million birds are killed every year in North America by cats, says Wyatt. pic.twitter.com/hdEAMlE9QQ
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
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    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:09:01

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon asks about the root of 30K cats number.
    Wyatt: Comes from U of G, surveys

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:10:35

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury asks staff about the 50ft rationale.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:12:15

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff: it was there to do noise, odour and possibly attracting rodents b/c of feed.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:13:04

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury asks if best practices were looked at by staff.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:13:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The working group did look at them, but response from residents about changes was limited. Only after report was written they got feedback

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:14:39

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury: Can we look at it again now?
    Staff: Need vote to direct staff to make it happen.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:15:18

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury asks about venomous animals.
    Staff: Reptile list will be further consulted on under exotic animals component.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:16:50

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon jokes that he will have to get rid of his manatee since it’s on the exotic animals list.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:19:41

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    In seriousness, Gordon says that 50 ft is discriminatory and now there’s more of an appetite for local food initiatives.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:20:14

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon moves changes of a 1.2m setback, 3m from windows and doors, and review of regulations. Guthrie seconds.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:21:05

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury says he’s not a chicken expert, but would like to refer to staff before “We fly off the handle.”

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:24:07

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon says he has not come up with these numbers randomly, they cam from consultation with staff.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:25:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The next largest in chicken offsets, after Guelph, is Ottawa with 10 metres. Guelph is just over 15.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:26:51

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon hears a lot of yeses about referring the motion to staff so he’s “chickening out”

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:29:10

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    The air in council today is fowl with puns.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:29:34

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    DCAO Clark proposes that all matters concerning chickens be referred back to Q2 ’17, but the setbacks can be approved now.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:30:14

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Downer says end of June might be a bit late for “chicken season”

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:30:50

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon concurs to separate the motions: a) setbacks and b) staff review of all other chicken matters.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:31:38

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon says he’ll support staff looking on this, but won’t support new set backs

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:38:30

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie notes that this move is very specifically about chickens.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:39:17

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie also trying to figure out why council would refer back, when staff will just come back with the same setback recommendation.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:40:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie asks when this might be looked at again:
    Staff: Bylaws are reviewed typically every 5 years.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:42:41

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff says they’re not sure if they’ll see increase of complaints with 1.2m setback, they get complaints with 50m setback.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:47:25

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Van Hellemond asks about limits. There are currently no limits on # of chickens, but there are animal welfare issues considered.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:48:24

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says he will bring forward a motion on #, thought that another councillor would.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:49:36

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland notes there was a working group that spent 3 years coming up with recommendations, council making their own in 3 minutes,

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:52:23

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    New setback rules pass 8-4. Bell, Billings, MacKinnon and Van Hellmond against.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:52:51

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says he wants to make sure that there’s something here about the number of chickens.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:53:58

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    DCAO Clack says that council can consider a temp limit of 10 chickens until staff can come back with permanent recommendations.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:54:40

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie moves to amend the motion with 10 chicken limit. Wettstein seconds.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:55:43

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt gets picky. Is 10 the total number, or 10 adult chickens plus chicks.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:56:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff: Just make it 10 regardless of size.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:56:49

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell asks about the people who have more than 10.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:57:07

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Historically, from an enforcement perspective, those in compliance with changes to bylaw are ‘grandfathered’

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:59:13

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland clarifies: the 10 limit is tied to the new setback.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 20:59:46

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    10 chicken limit passes 10-2. Allt, Hofland against.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:00:24

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council passes unanimously the referral to all further chicken matters to staff.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:02:52

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Hofland asks about enforcement. Staff says it’s done through bylaw and humane society.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:03:38

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt concerned that the new licensing regs is revenue generation through pet licensing.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:07:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff: this is an attempt to recoup costs of licensing cats, any revenue would go to animal control.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:08:34

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper asks about voting for each of the 12 recommendations separately. We’re not quite there yet, there are still speakers.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:19:28

  84. Animal Control Bylaw Service Review recommendations 1-6. https://t.co/bMff5d9mUL

    Animal Control Bylaw Service Review recommendations 1-6. pic.twitter.com/bMff5d9mUL
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
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    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:21:55

  85. Recommendations 7-12. https://t.co/Wcl9FZN5Aw

    Recommendations 7-12. pic.twitter.com/Wcl9FZN5Aw
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
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    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:22:41

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff says it’s “very polarizing” on the matter of whether or not cats should be allowed to roam. Would like owners to keep indoors for now

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:25:35

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MacKinnon asks about implications of not registering.
    Staff: Not many cats being picked up, smaller # of dogs, want to be able to ID them

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:28:27

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie asks about adding “outdoor” cats. Staff says working group looked at that, but indoor cats escape you see.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:29:31

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Leanne Piper: “I’d like to move to a question about goats, if that’s okay?”

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:40:32

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper asks about bylaws concerning the slaughtering of animals on residential properties.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:41:15

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff: No bylaws or regs, but there have been complaints. Don’t know what the impact of goats and sheep will be.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:41:55

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell says he’s gotten a lot of complaints about cats, ppl want more restrictions but need to understand outdoor cat hard to move indoors.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:44:24

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell wants to change the word “review” to “implemented” in point #4.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:46:47

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper, Wettstein say they need to review something before implementing it.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:47:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell motion fails with only 3 in favour: Bell, MacKinnon and Van Hellomond.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:47:50

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Point # 1a “That the licensing of cats be phased in and not become mandatory until 2018” passes 8-4.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:48:33

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    1b “that no collar or license tag be required if the cat is micro chipped and the information is kept current.” passes 8-4

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:48:58

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    2. That the User Fee By-law be amended to include a $25 Annual Licensing Fee for cats. passes 8-4.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:49:14

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    3. That $5 of each cat license sold be allocated to a program to be developed by the Animal Control Working Group… passes

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:49:35

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    4. That a requirement to restrict cats from being at large be reviewed in five years… Passes.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:49:55

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    5. That staff be directed, with input from representatives from pet stores and other stakeholders to develop regulations… Passes 11-1

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:50:28

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    6. That roosters be prohibited in the City of Guelph. passes 11-1

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:50:44

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    7. That the User Fee By-law be amended to include a one-time fee of $25 for the registration of keepers of domestic poultry… Passes 11-1

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:51:08

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    8. That an exception to the Prohibited Animal Schedule “A” be added to permit sheep and goats… Passes 11-1

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:51:33

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    9. That City staff continue to work with the Animal Control Working Group… Passes 12-0

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:51:55

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    10.That City staff continue to work with stakeholders to develop an education package and outreach… Passes 12-0

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:52:26

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    11.That the fees for animal licensing provide a 25% discount for residents purchasing a licence for a second… Passes 12-0.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:53:27

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    12.That the licence fees be reduced by 50% for any resident who qualifies for other City subsidies… Passes 12-0

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:53:46

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Gordon amendments 13 and 14 (the chicken matters) pass 12-0

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:54:08

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Next up Street Tree presentation.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:54:19

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Street Trees are separated into three different but equally important groups: City, Private, and “Shared” or “Boundary”.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 21:55:32

  112. That’s not how you draw a tree! pic.twitter.com/wKi44MryVt
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
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    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:00:21

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Going into hour #4 of Committee of the Whole we’ve still got Q3 variance report, Tartan inventory, & digital services.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:01:46

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie notes that this report is receive only. No need to dive in too deeply.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:05:59

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Martin Neumann, Manager, Parks Operations & Forestry notes that there is another piece coming on responsibilities for landowners.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:08:31

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    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Salisbury asks about liability about ash trees, and evasive species. Comm will have to move in camera to discuss that.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:16:43

  117. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie says this report is receive-only, staff can take away and investigate and they can have in-camera discussion later. Salisbury abides

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:17:45

  118. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Wettstein says that he’s heard from a number of constituents who are surprised to learn that they own a tree.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:24:23

  119. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie moves receipt of report, Piper seconds.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:25:22

  120. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Committee vote to receive report carries.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:27:51

  121. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    We’re back. MacKinnon clarifying what reports to be pulled.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:41:08

  122. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Only operating variance will be pulled, along with Digital services presentation.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:41:28

  123. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    3 outstanding reports passed.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:41:56

  124. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Next up: Digital Services Update.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:42:09

  125. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Amorosi says there’s no “Where’s my chicken?” app coming. Sad.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:42:52

  126. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    2 aspects of this: the creation of apps, and the modernization of technology to make service more effective.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:45:37

  127. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Much of that work will take place over 2017 and ’18.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:45:58

  128. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Four new apps being rolled out: Waste Reminder (what garbage goes out when), Council Search (city council minutes back to 2006) 1/

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:48:37

  129. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “I Want to…” (a simple way of trying to learn what city service you need), 2/

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:48:58

  130. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    And and the Park Maintenance Tracker (see when your local park was last maintained and see when it will be maintained again) 3/3

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:49:05

  131. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    MyGuelph, a full customizable porthole to City of Guelph services, still about a year away…

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:50:26

  132. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff wanted to make sure that people couple see results sooner rather than later.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:50:52

  133. Council search is indeed available. Check it out here: https://t.co/WzKbEQNcmL https://t.co/H9D0CHxBKr

    Council search is indeed available. Check it out here:  http://guelph.ca/city-hall/mayor-and-council/committee-of-the-whole/ … pic.twitter.com/H9D0CHxBKr
    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    ·

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 22:56:20

  134. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Andy Best says that real time Water Usage Data being tested right now.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:04:18

  135. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt notes the cost of this is 33 cents per year per person. That’s the cost of developing 2 new apps per year not ongoing costs

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:08:05

  136. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt asks if there are any numbers about how many people engage with the city online everyday.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:08:29

  137. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff: we count the hits, not the transactions, that will start in January.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:08:48

  138. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt says he was disappointed by the lack of use of the budge accelerator this year…

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:09:23

  139. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt is also concern about how much of the personal interaction will be phased out. Many constituents computer illiterate he notes.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:10:23

  140. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Best says this will reduce pressure on calls and walk-ins, simply another option made available.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:10:53

  141. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bell asking about the fidelity of the search function and various terms. Some room for improvement there it sounds like.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:13:49

  142. SaxChixPix

    Ann@SaxChixPix
    Schedule A still requires amendments -not all of the requested animals listed on the survey were taken off (reptiles,fish, spiders) #Guelph  https://twitter.com/adamadonaldson/status/805892390460555264 …

    ·

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:14:23

  143. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Piper asks if staff will be able to see breakdown of type of device the service used. They will.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:14:39

  144. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie is “amazed” about how #Guelph is always chosen as a leader in engagement.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:18:48

  145. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guelph’s piece in the innovation corridor is the use of tech to engage citizens, says Guthrie.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:19:48

  146. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vote on receipt of report. Passes 12-0.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:20:27

  147. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie has 2nd motion: a co-ordiated strategy to make #Guelph a civic tech hub by Q2 2017. Piper seconds.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:21:22

  148. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie wants staff to see what would be involved in making Guelph that civic tech hub, Piper interested about what kind of resources needed

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:22:56

  149. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff has already begun to think about the possibility in teaming up with Fed and Prov.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:23:27

  150. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt asking for clarity: Can staff do it, or are they being asked if they can do it?

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:24:41

  151. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    As Mayor, Guthrie says this is an important piece for the city. hint hint

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:25:14

  152. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Allt concerned about how this fits in to the work plan for 2017. MacKinnon says the motion is clear that this is not for a specific plan

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:26:21

  153. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    “This is the game we have to get into now,” says CAO Derrick Thomson. “We don’t want to be late to the party, and we’re beating it.”

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:27:30

  154. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Guthrie motion: passes 12-0.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:32:40

  155. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Back to the operating variance report and Billings Q.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:33:06

  156. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Billings ask for clarity, the favourable variance is that for whole budget or general revenue?

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:33:54

  157. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    City may not have negative variance at end of the year, staff thoughts?

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:34:35

  158. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Staff: Additional revenue will be realized in 2016. (Meaning good chance no negative variance.)

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:35:16

  159. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Clack says baseline wanted to represent an “average” winter. Lighter winters go in reserve to cover for worse winters.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:36:38

  160. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Amorosi: the budget correction was retrospective. Reserves were needed to deal with “hills and valleys” in winter control.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:37:38

  161. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vote to accept report passes 12-0

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:42:14

  162. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Vote to accept report passes 12-0

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:42:14

  163. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    No further announcements from DCAO Amorosi.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:42:40

  164. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Notice of motion from Cllr Wettstein.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:42:51

  165. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Council moves to go into closed meeting for Transit Budget Update
    Section 239(2)(b) personal information about identifiable
    individuals)
    

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:43:39

  166. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Essentially, that means the meeting is over because all that’s left is to adjourn the meeting.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:44:22

  167. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    In other words, that’s a wrap for the Committee-of-the-Whole meeting. Thanks for following along.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:44:49

  168. adamadonaldson

    Adam A. Donaldson@adamadonaldson
    Bradley will be back again Wednesday for #GuelphBudget.

    Mon, Dec 05 2016 23:45:06

 

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